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Since we're releasing in a few weeks, we thought we'd give a few more details on the content in 2.0, specifically the unit lists. Since 2.0 has so many changes and is essentially a whole new mod, and for any new players who don't have as much knowledge about previous versions, this post will have full unit lists for ICW2.0, as opposed to just listing the new content. Specific era changes will not be discussed here, however all of that kind of information will be covered in the manual, which will be released a few days before the final mod release.
We're still on track for release within the next few weeks, however it will probably be closer to August 10th due to some real-life commitments of a few team members.
Any content that has been changed for 2.0 will have an asterisk* beside it. New units are bolded, and redone models and skins are italicized. There may be a few changes/additions, but other than that this is final.
New Republic
Space: *-Viscount *-Endurance *-Nebula -Majestic *-Home One (Unique: Ackbar's flagship) *-MC80 *-MC80B *-MC90 -Assault Frigate -Bothan Assault Cruiser -Dreadnaught -Katana Dreadnaught *-MC40a -CR90 Corvette -Corona -DP20 Gunship -Nebulon B -Marauder -Sacheen -Nebulon B2 -Quasar -B Wing -Y Wing -X Wing -E Wing -K Wing -A Wing -Defender Starfighter
Land: *-Heavy Tracker -Gallofree HTT -MPTL -T3-B -T4-B *-V Wing *-Rebel Armoured Freerunner *-T1B -T2B -AAC-1 -Snowspeeder -Jedi -Infiltrator -Specialist -Republic Soldier -Vanguard
Heroes: (Era Dependant) -Mon Mothma (Galactic) -Luke Skywalker (Space/Land) -Leia Organa Solo (Galactic) -Han Solo/Chewbacca (Land/Space) -Kyle Katarn (Space/Land) -Ponc Gavrisom (Galactic) -Admiral Ackbar (Space) -Wedge Antilles (Space) -Airen Cracken (Galactic) -Tycho Celchu (Space) -Garm Bel-Iblis (Space) -Booster Terrick (Space) *-Etahn A'baht (Space) -Talon Karrde (Space) -Mara Jade (Space/Land) -Corran Horn (Space/Land) -Uwlla Iillor (Space) -Cilghal (Land)
Imperial Remnant:
Space: -Eclipse (Unique: Palpatine's flagship) -Executor -Sovereign *-Praetor II -Tector -Imperial I Star Destroyer -Imperial II Star Destroyer -Victory I -Victory II -Victory II (Crimson Command) -Dreadnaught -Katana Dreadnaught -Modular Taskforce Cruiser -Venator -Strike Cruiser -Acclamator -Carrack -Escort Carrier -Immobilizer-418 -Vindicator -Lancer -A9 Vigilance -Howlrunner -Preybird -TIE Fighter -TIE Bomber -TIE Defender -TIE Interceptor -TIE Droid
Ground: -A6 Juggernaut -AT-AA -AT-AT -2M Repulsortank *-Imperial Dropship Transport -Century Tank -SPMA-T -XR-85 -AT-PT -AT-ST -Chariot LAV -TIE Mauler *-E-Web -Imperial Specialist *-Nova Trooper -Stormtrooper -Shock Trooper -Scout Trooper -Noghri
Heroes: (Era Dependant) -Ysanne Isard (Space) *-Blitzer Harssk (Space) *-Delak Krennal (Space) *-Erisi Dlarit (Space) *-Apwar Trigit (Space) *-Ait Convarion (Space) -Thrawn (Ground/Space) -Brandei (Space) -C'baoth (Ground/Space) -Dorja (Space) -Covell (Ground) -Niles Ferrier (Space) -Palpatine (Ground/Space) *-Delvardus (Space) *-Teradoc (Space) -Sedriss (Ground) -Kaine (Space) -Veers (Ground) -Daala (Space) -Cronus (Space) -Phennir (Space) *-Brakiss (Ground) -Pellaeon (Space) *-Maarek Stele (Space) *-Meizh Vermel (Space) *-Drend Navett (Ground) *-Grodin Tierce (Ground/Space) *-Teren Rogriss (Space) -Zsinj (Space) *-Melvar (Space) -Gethzerion (Land)
Empire of the Hand
Space: -Phalanx *-Syndic -Ascendancy -Chaf *-Nuruodo -Massias -Au'riette -Kariek -Decimator -Warlord -Vigilance *-Asdroni -Scarsiss -Furion -Krsiss -Nsiss -Syca Bomber -Brask Defense Platform -Visvia Defense Platform
Land: -MMT *-Gilzean -Plasma Mortar *-AirStraeker -Flame Tank -RFT -Kirov -Rocket Trooper -Phalanx Commando -Phalanx Soldier
Heroes: -Thrawn (Land/Space) -Soontir Fel (Space) -Chak Fel (/Space) -Dagon Niriz (/Space) -Voss Parck (Space) *-Ar'alani (Space) -Stent (Space) -Thrawn Clone (Space) -Siath (Space) -Aurek Seven (Land) *-Ashik (Land/Space) -Hand of Judgement
Pentastar Alignment
Space: *-Vengeance (Unique: Jerec's flagship) -Executor (Unique: Kaine's flagship) *-Praetor II -Imperial I -Imperial II -Venator -Victory I -Victory II -Acclamator *-Enforcer *-Imperial Escort Cruiser -Immobilizer 418 *-IPV1 *-Munificent -Vindicator *-Skipray -TIE Fighter -TIE Bomber -TIE Interceptor *-TIE Hunter
Land: *-A9 Floating Fortress -AT-AT -Century Tank -LAAT -SPMAT *-TX130 Saber Tank -ATPT *-Hailfire *-AT-AP *-Dark Jedi *-Enforcer Soldiers -Shock Trooper *-Storm Commando
Heroes: -Ardus Kaine (Space) -Jerec (Space/Land) -Grand Admiral Grant (Space) -Gregor Raquoran (Galactic)
Hapes Consortium
Space: -Star Home (Unique) *-Song of War (Unique: Isolder's flagship) *-Battle Dragon -Nova Cruiser -Miy'til Fighter -Miy'til Bomber
Ground: -AAC-1 -Soldier squad
Heroes: *-Prince Isolder (Space)
Duskhan League
Space: -Executor (Unique: Pride of Yevetha) -Aramadia -Trifoil Squadron -Imperial I -Imperial II -Victory I -Victory II
Land: -AT-AT -AT-ST -Yevethan Soldiers
Heroes: -Nil Spaar -Dar Bille
Warlords
The Warlord, as always, have assorted variations of Imperial and Pentastar units and heroes.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 12:19:23 PM » |
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New Republic Star Destroyer is out?
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 01:01:18 PM » |
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The New Republic star destroyer is the nebula.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 03:52:51 PM » |
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He means the Republic-class Star Destroyer.
There's two problems with it. The first and primary problem is that the ship itself is redundant. It's way too similar to the Nebula to be worth having. The second problem is that the basic design of the ship is irredeemably ugly. If a ship is important enough in canon we'll usually put it in even if it sort of encroaches on another ship's role, but the Republic was only in one book, and even in that book it took a backseat to the Nebula and Endurance. We'll also sometimes do it if we really like a design, but the design is also terrible. There's really no reason to put it in the mod.
It wasn't even supposed to stay in for 1.0, but it's made it through the cracks for a year and a half.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 08:50:44 PM » |
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He means the Republic-class Star Destroyer.
There's two problems with it. The first and primary problem is that the ship itself is redundant. It's way too similar to the Nebula to be worth having. The second problem is that the basic design of the ship is irredeemably ugly. If a ship is important enough in canon we'll usually put it in even if it sort of encroaches on another ship's role, but the Republic was only in one book, and even in that book it took a backseat to the Nebula and Endurance. We'll also sometimes do it if we really like a design, but the design is also terrible. There's really no reason to put it in the mod.
It wasn't even supposed to stay in for 1.0, but it's made it through the cracks for a year and a half.
I concur, it is an ugly ship
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 12:40:34 PM » |
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Shouldn't the Dushkan League show an Executor listed as a unique (Pride of Yevetha)?
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 01:48:23 PM » |
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Yeah, fixed. Thanks.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 07:15:47 PM » |
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Always did prefer the EvilJedi model for it than the one in the current build. Has the nebula been buffed then though? Feels quite weak.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 07:27:27 PM » |
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I'd say the Nebula's one of the most powerful units in the game.
The damage outputs of the top five non-SSDs are: Phalanx - 405 - 2000 meters -EotH Tector - 365 - 1600 meters - Remnant Nebula - 300 - 1040 meters -New Republic Syndic - 283 - 1500 meters - EotH ISDII - 270 -1600 meters -Remnant
I think these numbers are slightly outdated for the Syndic; It should be under the ISDII but above the ISDI at this point right now, but it's all in the right range.
The Republic model was never really one we liked, it was only in because of how many people were requesting it. Honestly, I don't like EJ's that much either though.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 08:15:39 PM » |
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I take it you're throwing the Praetor-II in as an SSD for that classification, since I would hope it would beat out an ISDII.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 08:23:55 PM » |
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I am. It's somewhere up around 800.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2012, 12:46:00 PM » |
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What are the Heavy Tracker and Rebel Armored Freerunner anyway?
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2012, 12:49:10 PM » |
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The Armoured Freerunner is a medium vehicle with two anti-infantry and one anti-vehicle turret, pictured here. Its closest analogue that I can think of would be the Imperial 1M tanks but that's a bit of a stretch. They're my favourite NR unit. The Heavy Tracker is basically a heavily armoured transport with some other utility to it, pictured here.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2012, 12:56:02 PM » |
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Why thank you for clearing that one up so quickly Corey. But basically they Freerunner is a land variant of the Gallofree my favorite "land unit", I guess?
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2012, 12:58:34 PM » |
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Wrong way around, but yeah the Heavy Tracker is somewhat similar to the Gallofree HTT.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2012, 05:11:21 PM » |
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Both are very useful
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"All is fair in Love and War"- Nathan Bedford Forrest
"The New Order has never fallen. Only the Emperor. … The Emperor may be dead, but the Empire lives on!" Grand Moff Ardus Kaine
"And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low? Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know. In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws, And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours. And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere, But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear. Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear!" Rains of Castamere-Lord Tywin Lannister
"Gentlemen, All I ask for is War...War so grand as to make Hell itself tremble. I ask you as fellow brothers in arms, what is it you really want? Do you wish for further War as I do? Do you wish for a merciless, bloody War? A War whose fury is filled with Iron and lightning and fire! A WAR THAT LEAVES NOT EVEN RAVENS TO SCAVENGE FROM THIS EARTH!!!" The Major
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2012, 12:32:06 PM » |
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What is the century tank ... 
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2012, 12:37:45 PM » |
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TIE Crawler. Names are basically interchangeable.
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2013, 10:35:58 AM » |
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Well,where do I need to start? The Pentastar Alignment is simply too weak. You should need to give it a few more units, to balance the game. For example makeing the Vengeance-class Star Dreadnought buildabble, and also giving a GC AI to it because it haven't got at the moment... I'm looking forward to the new features you're creating at the moment...
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2013, 11:37:40 AM » |
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It's not at all weak. They start with 2 SSD's, have one of the best carriers in the game (Venator), have the strongest (if, IMO, overpriced in how many unit slots it takes) non-SSD capitol ship in the game (Praetor-II), has one of the most balanced capitol ships in the game (ISD-II), and have the best escort carrier (since it has Tie Hunters, one of the best spawned fighters).
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