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August 27, 2012, 03:00:20 PM

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Differences between Manual and Game
« on: August 27, 2012, 03:00:20 PM »
I made this thread to colect all the mistakes in the manual, so that it can be corrected.
Please only post here the mistakes you notice, but do not discuss them.
First mistake:
Pop cap of the viscount:
Game: 18, Manual 20

August 28, 2012, 12:57:59 PMReply #1

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 12:57:59 PM »
Praetor II:
pop cap
Manual 9
Game 12

August 29, 2012, 12:47:31 AMReply #2

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 12:47:31 AM »
Tector is listed as available only in era 4, but is available for Pellaeon to build in era 5.
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August 29, 2012, 08:45:21 AMReply #3

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2012, 08:45:21 AM »
Vilim Disra is listed as an available hero in Essence and Art of War GCs, but he's not actually in the game separately from Tierce. I imagine this was due to the abandonment of Disra as an individual hero?
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August 29, 2012, 11:12:23 AMReply #4

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2012, 11:12:23 AM »
Venator is listed as carrying 12 squadrons, but in Era 5 it carries only 6 preybirds and 3 howlrunners for a total of 9.
"That's not what the Empire would have done, Commander. What the Empire would have done was build a super-colossal Yuuzhan Vong-killing battle machine. They would have called it the Nova Colossus or the Galaxy Destructor or the Nostril of Palpatine or something equally grandiose. They would have spent billions of credits, employed thousands of contractors and subcontractors, and equipped it with the latest in death-dealing technology. And you know what would have happened? It wouldn't have worked. They'd forget to bolt down a metal plate over an access hatch leading to the main reactors, or some other mistake, and a hotshot enemy pilot would drop a bomb down there and blow the whole thing up. Now that's what the Empire would have done."
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August 29, 2012, 01:42:52 PMReply #5

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2012, 01:42:52 PM »
Luke also provides a 25% damage bonus in ground combat as well.
"That's not what the Empire would have done, Commander. What the Empire would have done was build a super-colossal Yuuzhan Vong-killing battle machine. They would have called it the Nova Colossus or the Galaxy Destructor or the Nostril of Palpatine or something equally grandiose. They would have spent billions of credits, employed thousands of contractors and subcontractors, and equipped it with the latest in death-dealing technology. And you know what would have happened? It wouldn't have worked. They'd forget to bolt down a metal plate over an access hatch leading to the main reactors, or some other mistake, and a hotshot enemy pilot would drop a bomb down there and blow the whole thing up. Now that's what the Empire would have done."
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August 30, 2012, 03:58:31 AMReply #6

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 03:58:31 AM »
the Exekutor class (at least the Iron Fist) has no Heavy turbolaser hardpoints, i dont know if every Exekutor has this problem

August 30, 2012, 05:11:10 AMReply #7

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 05:11:10 AM »
Golan III has 20 TL Hardpoints (instead of 16)

August 30, 2012, 05:25:07 AMReply #8

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 05:25:07 AM »
the venator seems to miss its torpedos (at least Daalas Scylla)

August 30, 2012, 09:10:24 AMReply #9

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2012, 09:10:24 AM »
Venator is listed as carrying 12 squadrons, but in Era 5 it carries only 6 preybirds and 3 howlrunners for a total of 9.
Code bug. The final three Era 5 squadrons have been spawning in Era 4 instead.

the Exekutor class (at least the Iron Fist) has no Heavy turbolaser hardpoints, i dont know if every Exekutor has this problem
The Executor does have Heavy Turbolasers, it's just they aren't labelled as such in-game.  The same is therefore true of the Sovereign, Eclipse and Viscount.

the venator seems to miss its torpedos (at least Daalas Scylla)
Apparently they never got added despite being in our unit balance spreadsheet.
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September 08, 2012, 01:30:33 AMReply #10

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2012, 01:30:33 AM »
No shock troopers for PA despite being mentioned in manual and Era Tree

September 08, 2012, 01:57:03 AMReply #11

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2012, 01:57:03 AM »
No shock troopers for PA despite being mentioned in manual and Era Tree

Yeah but i think you mean Plex Soldiers :).
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October 24, 2012, 10:21:43 AMReply #12

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2012, 10:21:43 AM »
1) Admiral Teren Rogriss (IR) is in the manual but not in the game
2) Aurek Seven (EoTH) is the same story
3)Chack Fel (EoTH) the same but i'm not 100% sure
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October 24, 2012, 01:10:44 PMReply #13

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2012, 01:10:44 PM »
1) Admiral Teren Rogriss (IR) is in the manual but not in the game
2) Aurek Seven (EoTH) is the same story
3)Chack Fel (EoTH) the same but i'm not 100% sure
1) Rogriss is in the amalgamated faction vs Zsinj in The Hunt for Zsinj.
2) Aurek Seven should be available in Era 5 for the EotH (I can't remember if they go alongside or replace the Hand of Judgement).
3) Chak should be in the later EotH eras too (Era 4 onwards).
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February 26, 2013, 02:19:47 PMReply #14

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2013, 02:19:47 PM »
Katana dreadnaught has 2 fighters not 1.
And the manual says A-9 vigilance, TIE droid, Y-wing (except in tutorial) and Skipray's are all buildable.
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March 03, 2013, 06:05:41 PMReply #15

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2013, 06:05:41 PM »
Quasar Fire Cruiser is NOT available in era 5.
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August 07, 2013, 04:45:37 PMReply #16

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2013, 04:45:37 PM »
sorry i forgot the last time.
In the manual i red this yesterday:
Empires at War
Summary
Date: 7 ABY
Playable Factions: Imperial Remnant, New Republic, Empire of the Hand,
Pentastar Alignment
Non-Playable Factions: Imperial Warlords, Duskhan League.
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WHAT IS THE NR DOING THERE,IF THEY AREN'T EVEN IN THE MAP??????????
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August 07, 2013, 05:17:20 PMReply #17

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2013, 05:17:20 PM »
I'm fairly sure that's just a mistake, don't sweat it.
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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2013, 04:02:18 AM »
It says the tector star destroyer gets bonus from KDY but in game it dosent this is the same with the viscount with Mon cal shipyards.
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August 29, 2013, 03:50:40 PMReply #19

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Re: Differences between Manual and Game
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2013, 03:50:40 PM »
The TIE Crawler is said to have an armament of 2 Turbolasers.
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